Today's interview is with one of my dearest friends and ex colleague Julia. She went sober a year ago and not in the way you would normally think. It's an interesting conversation because as Australians we've condoned excessive drinking. It's an exploration on self worth and how we have to mask that to belong.

This episode discusses addiction. For free and confidential advice about alcohol and other drugs, call the National Alcohol and Other Drug Hotline 1800 250 015.

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Credits:

• Joanne Helder - Producer
• Caleb Jacobs - Music
• Tash Todd-Williams, Word of Mouth Digital - Digital Strategic Partner

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