• 359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

  • Sep 19 2024
  • Length: 1 hr and 33 mins
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359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

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  • This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

    Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:42 - Intro music
    02:07 - Introduction
    05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
    08:49 - Why Christian faith?
    15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
    18:27 - The current dialogos
    21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
    25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
    32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
    37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
    41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
    44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
    46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
    49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
    55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
    01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
    01:11:39 - Intimacy
    01:22:18 - We can't be meta
    01:27:47 - Universalism
    01:29:01 - We each have our callings
    01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.
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