This week we discuss the disappearance of Suzanne Lyall, a 19 year old college student who went missing from the SUNY Albany campus. She went missing on March 2, 1998 and has never been heard from again. Who used her ID? Who used her ATM card? Where did she go? We also discuss all the wonderful, amazing advocacy her parents did to create laws to support other families of missing people. Welcome to 2025!

Resources:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Suzanne_Lyall

2. https://icestationpoetry.medium.com/who-is-responsible-for-the-disappearance-of-suzanne-lyall-5d32f47db4f

3. https://saratogaliving.com/capital-region-cold-case-the-disappearance-of-suzanne-lyall-still-haunts-the-albany-area/

4. https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/suzanne-suzy-lyall-vanished-from-a-bus-stop

5. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suzanne-lyall-missing-since-1998-after-leaving-her-job/

6. https://www.darklight.com/suzy/Important_Info/A_Letter/a_letter.html

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Before we take a 2 week break for the holidays and travel, we wanted to leave you with a story that happened on Christmas Eve in 1945. It a devastating fire that consumed the Sodder family home in Fayetteville, West Virginia. While George and Jennie Sodder and four of their children escaped, five of their children seemingly vanished without a trace. The official explanation claimed they perished in the fire, but troubling inconsistencies and chilling clues have kept the mystery alive for nearly 80 years.

Hit play, grab a drink, ditch the family for an hour, and join us as Kat delves into one of America’s most haunting cold cases, exploring theories, evidence, and the Sodder family’s relentless pursuit of the truth.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Joyous Kwanzaa, Happy Boxing Day, and Happy Festivus for the Rest of Us!

Here's to a wonderful 2025! We love you all!
See something. Say something.
Love,
Kat & Ashley

References:

1. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-happened-sodder-children-siblings-who-went-up-in-smoke-west-virginia-house-fire-172429802/
2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodder_children_disappearance
3. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-25/the-mystery-of-the-vanished-sodder-children/103245390
4. https://www.grunge.com/676611/the-biggest-sodder-children-theories-what-really-happened-to-them/
5. https://www.mywvhome.com/forties/sodder.html
6. https://wickedhistory.substack.com/p/a-tragic-and-enduring-christmas-mystery
7. https://www.timeswv.com/news/their-fate-kidnapped-murdered-or-are-they-still-alive/article_be5920fe-a3f1-11e6-a3fc-43908d62effb.html

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In this episode Ashley discusses the unsolved, bizarre 1935 murder case of Ronald T. Owen aka Artemus Ogletree. There are so many unanswered questions, so many twists and turns and at this point we may never know who did it or why! Join us as we explore the dark side of humanity. And as always, if you see something, please say something.

Resources:

1. https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/unsolved-mystery-the-haunting-case-of-room-1046/

2. https://www.murdershetold.com/episodes/artemus-ogletree

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Artemus_Ogletree

4. https://unresolved.me/room-1046

5. https://www.ranker.com/list/room-1046-mystery/orrin-grey

6. https://www.al.com/news/erry-2018/09/56ecbe55ac9479/the-mystery-of-what-was-in-the.html

7. https://allthatsinteresting.com/room-1046-murder-roland-t-owen

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In this episode, Kat dives into the chilling story of the 2009 Thanksgiving massacre. What was meant to be a warm family gathering turned into a nightmare when Paul Merhige, an estranged relative, arrived unannounced and unleashed unimaginable violence on his own family. We’ll explore the details of that fateful day, the heartbreaking impact on survivors, and the controversial courtroom battles that followed. Join us as we unravel the shocking events and complex family dynamics that led to this tragic and unforgettable crime.

TRIGGER WARNING:
We want to let you know that this episode includes discussions of suicide, attempted suicide, and gun violence. Some listeners may find these topics distressing. Please take care of yourself, and feel free to skip this episode if these subjects might be too difficult to hear.

REFERENCES:

1. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2010/03/05/hotel-owners-receive-100-000/7158817007/
2. https://www.wftv.com/news/new-audio-released-in-case-of-man-accused-of-killi/286689730/
3. https://www.yahoo.com/news/thanksgiving-massacre-2009-highlights-todays-130038254.html
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mflQceMq22Y
5. https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/crime/article24565705.html
6. https://gizmodo.com/a-thanksgiving-tragedy-and-its-messy-aftermath-ripped-t-1744717642
7. https://www.clarkfountain.com/blog/lawsuit-against-paul-merhige-kin-falls-through-the-palm-beach-post/
8. https://www.wptv.com/news/region-n-palm-beach-county/jupiter/10-years-after-the-jupiter-thanksgiving-murders-a-family-remembers
9. https://www.med.upenn.edu/ctsa/forms_ocdfacts.html
10. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls

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In this week's episode Ashley discusses the 2011 unsolved murder of 23 year old Ashland man, David Grubbs. What seems like a completely random murder has terrified the community even through today. The police department however continues to search any and all leads. If you have any information please contact the following: Ashland Police Department at 541-482-5211 or the APD Anonymous Tip Line at 541-552-2333. You can also call or text Crime Stoppers of Southern Oregan at 1-800-850-0580 refer to case number KTVL 12-25-18.

There’s currently a $22,000 reward for any information.

As always, if you see something, say something. Join us as we explore the dark side of humanity.

Resources:

1. https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/community-still-looking-answers-violent-2011-murder-david-grubbs-ashland-n1300742

2. https://ktvl.com/news/local/family-and-friends-of-david-grubbs-recreate-memorial-after-it-was-destroyed

3. https://medium.com/@janecwrites/small-town-oregons-most-gruesome-unsolved-murder-2765fcffba5b

4. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1de4lgs/the_disturbing_murder_of_david_grubbs/

5. https://kobi5.com/news/ashland-police-continue-investigation-into-david-grubbs-murder-217371/

6. https://vocal.media/criminal/unsolved-the-murder-of-david-michael-grubbs

7. https://ashland.news/memorial-to-slain-ashland-man-vandalized/

8. This website has some interactive time line pieces you can click on and learn more about different events during the investigation: https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/grubbs-murder

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In part two of our deep dive into the Bamber Family murders, the story gets crazy. Was the real killer ever caught, or has an innocent man paid the price for a crime he didn't commit? Join Kat as she explores the unsettling twists and growing doubts that keep this case in the spotlight, and challenges the conviction that shocked a nation.

REFERENCES:

1. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/08/05/did-the-uks-most-infamous-family-massacre-end-in-a-wrongful-conviction?_sp=164fd6a7-5bdc-439c-8dcc-7757da912638.1729613006415
2. https://archive.ph/20120731000208/http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.html#selection-1185.0-1195.523
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Farm_murders
4. https://www.bbcselect.com/watch/the-bambers-murder-at-the-farm/
5. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/01/jeremy-bamber-case-new-evidence/

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HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!! In this week's episode Ashley does a deep dive about Ronald O'Bryan, the man who ruined Halloween aka THE Candy Man. Ronald was convicted of poisoning his own son with cyanide. Learn about the actual chain of events, the reason why and the aftermath. Join us as we explore the dark side of humanity!

Resources:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Clark_O%27Bryan

2. https://people.com/candy-man-killer-timothy-obryan-murder-8732896

3. https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/the-man-who-killed-halloween

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A horrifying night ends in the deaths of five family members. Two people could have committed the crime—one is dead, and the other is behind bars. But was justice truly served, or is this another case of a wrongful conviction? Join Kat as she delves into the chilling Bamber Family murders at White House Farm in Essex, England, unraveling the twists and doubts surrounding one of the UK's most infamous cases.

PS. Thanks for your patience as Kat got through Gala season!

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REFERENCES:

1. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/08/05/did-the-uks-most-infamous-family-massacre-end-in-a-wrongful-conviction?_sp=164fd6a7-5bdc-439c-8dcc-7757da912638.1729613006415
2. https://archive.ph/20120731000208/http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2002/2912.html#selection-1185.0-1195.523
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Farm_murders
4. https://www.bbcselect.com/watch/the-bambers-murder-at-the-farm/
5. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/01/jeremy-bamber-case-new-evidence/

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