In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Andrew Kennedy from iFoodDS, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.

Andrew worked in the FDA and was one of the key people involved in writing the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204, and in this episode he is sharing some insights into the process.

He also talks about his time working for the FDA during the COVID pandemic, what he learned about food supply chain management (especially when things go wrong), and his current work facilitating the implementation of the traceability rule through iFoodDS, the leader in food supply chain software.

In this episode:

💩 [01:04] Andy, a long-awaited guest

💩 [03:33] Where the idea for New Era Partners came from

💩 [06:10] From traceability company founder to working in the FDA

💩 [09:17] FDA’s food supply chain management initiatives during COVID

💩 [14:11] How the food supply chain really works when it breaks

💩 [16:30] From the iterative development model to “you have one shot”

💩 [20:26] The importance of having 360º feedback from different sources

💩 [22:25] What does Andy prefer: government or private sector?

💩 [23:57] Implementing FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204

💩 [26:32] The current challenge to implementing FSMA 204

💩 [32:02] What’s good and bad about the Food Safety Consortium 2024

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Learn more about iFoodDS, the leader in food supply chain software, at ifoodds.com.

Want to know more about the FDA's Traceability Rule FSMA 204? You can find all the information you need here.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“ What I found out [when working on the FDA Traceability Rule] was how passionate people are about traceability. Which I didn't fully appreciate until we went through that process just how many people are invested in the effort around creating a traceability rule. And so that kind of opened my eyes like, Oh, this is a big deal.” – Andrew Kennedy

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are sharing some food safety tips for safe holiday cooking.

There are a lot of holiday parties this time of year, and you don't want to spend most of the time on your knees in the bathroom with your head over the toilet.

So, tune in to learn how to protect yourself, your family, and your friends from foodborne illnesses this holiday season.

In this episode:

💩 [01:29] The need for food safety around the holidays

💩 [02:08] A career created out of vomit and diarrhea

💩 [03:28] The evolution of food safety training

💩 [12:59] The importance of being safe when cooking for others

💩 [16:23] How to not kill your loved ones during the holidays

💩 [17:13] Step 1: Clean and sanitize your kitchen

💩 [20:45] One thing you must not do

💩 [21:35] Step 2: Separate to avoid cross-contamination

💩 [25:27] Step 3: Use a thermometer to cook meat and poultry

💩 [25:57] How to calibrate your thermometer

💩 [27:00] How to thaw your turkey safely

💩 [28:07] Step 4: Storing, refrigerating, and reheating food guidelines

💩 [31:23] Quick reminder for happy holidays

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

To learn more about the woman who tried to kill her ex’s family with Beef Wellington, catch up with Episode 38 | Don’t Cook Salmon in the Dishwasher!

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“Most people don't know about food safety. I think people know on the periphery about food safety, but most people think what they do is safe in their kitchen. A lot of that is not safe.” – Matthew Regusci

“ When you're with your extended family, you never know what type of immune system they really have. They could have cancer and not be telling you that they have cancer. So, we always need to be conscientious about their immune systems. So, it's important that we take all the precautions that we would take as if we worked in a restaurant.” – Francine L Shaw

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Justin Dwyer, an Environmental Health Practitioner for Peoria City/County Health Department, straight from the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.

Justin shares a little bit about the different parts of his job: handling food recalls, doing lead abatement inspections, overseeing farmers' markets and the food that falls under the Illinois Cottage Food Act, making sure well water is safe, inspecting food establishments, and investigating foodborne illness and outbreaks.

Tune in for some great stories, tips, and the realities of the life of a health inspector.

In this episode:

💩 [01:10] Meet Justin Dwyer, who ran the 2024 IEHA Conference

💩 [02:38] The recall for the applesauce with lead

💩 [04:15] Lead abatement inspections for children with lead poisoning

💩 [07:22] Crazy farmers’ market inspection stories

💩 [12:35] Cottage food and food freedom laws and their benefits

💩 [18:35] Well water safety and controversial sun tea

💩 [22:26] The life of an inspector on a weekly basis

💩 [25:19] Handling foodborne illness complaints and outbreaks

💩 [29:02] A frustrating large outbreak investigation

💩 [36:58] 2024 IEHA Conference insights and highlights

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode
Catch up with the episode about the lead in the applesauce: Episode 51 | Stanley Cups vs. Cinnamon Applesauce: Which Is More Likely To Give You Lead Poisoning?
Also catch up on our episode with Doug Farquhar where we talk about cottage food laws: Episode 87 | The Impacts of American Federalism on US Food Safety with Doug Farquhar.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode
“ The unfortunate thing is most foodborne illness complaints, we never find a true answer. And that's a simple fact, that's the retail side. Unlike industry, where you're going to be doing all your zone testing, and then you figure out exactly where it is, and you do all the recalls on all the product. Sometimes you don't ever truly know what happened.” – Justin Dwyer

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are tying a knot in the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak now that the outbreak has been deemed over by the CDC.

They share the final toll of the outbreak, discuss the reality of underreporting, and talk about its impacts.

They also share the very grave and necessary letter from one of Bill Marler’s, the nation's leading foodborne illness attorney, clients who lost her husband to a Boar’s Head Listeria-laced liverwurst sandwich.

Warning: this episode discusses grief and loss and recounts the death of a beloved husband. You might want to keep some tissues handy, this is a hard one.

In this episode:

💩 [01:17] Francine’s dedication to Don’t Eat Poop!

💩 [03:05] Tying a knot in the Boar’s Head Listeria outbreak

💩 [04:55] The impact of the outbreak on delis

💩 [06:05] The numbers are far greater than what’s reported

💩 [08:26] Letter from a widow of Boar’s Head Listeria liverwurst

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Read the letter on Food Safety News, Words from a widow of Boar’s Head Listeria liverwurst.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“I never thought my husband would die eating a Liverwurst sandwich. (...) My question to Boar’s Head is, ‘Would you take poisoned meat home to your family and loved ones?’ We all know the answer! (...) I’m devastated, heartbroken, and I feel I will never be the same.” – a Widow of Boar’s Head Listeria Liverwurst

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by FDA Retail Food Specialist Carolyn White at the 2024 FDA Retail Food Seminar & IEHA Annual Education Conference.

No one is happy to see a health inspector, right? Well, today’s guest will help reframe that point of view as she shows that a health inspector is NOT the enemy but a resource.

She shares some essential FDA resources available for retail food safety both for regulators and operators.

In true Don’t Eat Poop! fashion, they dive deep into the issue of Norovirus including all the projectile vomiting that goes with it. They also share great stories of being in food retail.

In this episode:

💩 [01:35] Carolyn White and her role as FDA Retail Food Specialist

💩 [03:21] The power of Carolyn’s background

💩 [05:11] Working with different rules in different places

💩 [05:56] A day in the life of an FDA Retail Food Specialist

💩 [06:37] The importance of the Annexes in the Food Code

💩 [10:09] Free tools and resources for regulators and operators

💩 [12:36] Norovirus and the difficulty of preventing its spread

💩 [16:09] An FDA Retail Food Specialist’s role in an outbreak situation

💩 [17:19] How local regulatory programs are making a difference

💩 [21:22] Regulators and operators share the same goals

💩 [24:52] No conversation is off-limits for folks in retail food

💩 [26:45] The importance of health inspectors

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Read Francine’s recent article for QA Magazine Sanitation Supplement: The Essentials of Sanitation in Food Facilities.

Check out the FDA Employee Health Policy Tool Carolyn mentioned.

Meet Vomiting Larry and get a visual representation of vomit spray.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“For our industry stakeholders, we talk a lot about food safety management systems and are we putting in a culture of food safety into our establishment, whether you have a 4 million dollar budget or a 40 dollar budget, right? The importance of that food safety culture.” – Carolyn White

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine are joined by Steven Mandernach, Executive Director at the Association of Food and Drug Officials, straight from the Food Safety Consortium 2024.

“I never thought of it that way” is something you’ll catch yourself saying throughout this episode full of gems.

Prepare yourself to better understand the harsh realities of being a food inspector, the consequences of the planned budgetary cuts by the FDA to food inspections, how food e-commerce could be better regulated, and more.

In this episode:

💩 [01:07] AFDO and what it does for state and local regulators

💩 [03:31] Understand the FDA Reorganization Plan and its impacts

💩 [08:06] Rethinking the requirements for food inspectors

💩 [10:40] Just-in-time training and specialization

💩 [14:15] FDA information sharing challenges

💩 [17:15] The realities of food inspector salaries

💩 [18:42] A hopeful solution for the information sharing issues

💩 [20:50] When state departments step in for USDA and FDA

💩 [25:45] The food safety challenges of food e-commerce

💩 [32:01] AFDO and lobbying

💩 [33:26] What to do when going through difficult budget times

💩 [34:55] The contracting system between the states and the FDA

💩 [38:17] The FDA’s sometimes questionable risk analysis

💩 [40:23] The sheer deficit of food inspectors

💩 [43:38] Get the F out of the FDA

💩 [45:39] How the reorg is going so far

💩 [47:31] The FDA’s dilemma: a public health or regulatory organization?

💩 [49:45] What’s good about the Food Safety Consortium 2024

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Learn more about AFDO at afdo.org.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“So, if I were a commissioner right now of the Food and Drug Administration, I hope they realize this is your last chance to fix food. If you don't do it, a single food agency is next. I mean, I really don't think you get another bite at the apple, you've had all of them now.” – Steven Mandernach

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