In this episode, we sit down with our friend Monsignor Shea from University of Mary. We talk about stepping into an apostolic age, the age of Fatherhood, warnings of longing for utopia, and what the saints of our age will look like. We recorded this episode in the Spoke Street Booth at SEEK 2023. Important Things 11:04 - We’ve come out of Christendom and into aposotlic mode but it is now about bringing back to the Church to which they feel like they have tasted and not liked. 13:36 - We’re stepping into the age of God as Father, where many people are in need of healing as sons and daughters. 14:56 - Attachement theory is about relationship which ultimatly impacts our relationship with God. The ultimate design of our hearts is to firmly attach to God as Father. 18:06 - The Church often operates in an orphan spirit that has left us hopeless about culture and the life of the Church. But we need to shift away from being fascinated by utopias or believing that resilience or pain squanders our hope. 25:45 - In every age, the Church comes against culture but there are always saints who rise up among it. 32:30 - The accuser reeks havoc on society with three main lies: the lie of shame, the lie of presumption, and the lie of self reliance. Shame says, you are not enough. Presumption says, what you do today doesn’t matter. And self reliance says, you are all alone. 39:20 - It’s anti-Christian to be nostalgic for “better days”. We are made for a purpose right now, in this time in history. Lists & Resources From Christendom to Apostolic Mission: https://www.amazon.ca/Christendom-Apostolic-Mission-Pastoral-Strategies-ebook/dp/B08B4SM488 Prime Matters: https://primematters.com/ Spoke Street: https://spokestreet.com/ SEEK: https://seek.focus.org/ Shownotes In this episode, we sit down with our friend Monsignor Shea from University of Mary. We talk about stepping into an apostolic age, the age of Fatherhood, warnings of longing for utopia, and what the saints of our age will look like. We recorded this episode in the Spoke Street Booth at SEEK 2023. Quotes 12:17 - “What’s different about the age in which we find ourselves in now is it’s not just about converting pagans; it’s about bringing back people who have believed they heard the gospel and convincing them that they should see it again for the first time, and that’s a very different task” - Monsignor “The ultimate design of our hearts is to firmly attach to God as Father.” - Jason Jensen “In every age this happens and in every age how does God answer? He raises up saints to be his warriors to fight for him within the church. And then the church builds up the immunity for the good of the Church and the good of the culture.” - Monsignor Shea “The saints canonized in the next 50 years, are the ones who got infected by the disease of the culture and then they allowed Christ to transform them personally, and it’s the collective doing of saints becoming saints that are those antibodies.” - Jason “The accuser reeks havoc on the hearts of men and women with these questions of shame, presumption, and self relance. And the answer to that is of course to reject them. And say no, I am enough and God has given me everything I need to fulfill my purpose in this life, what He has placed me here to do… He hasn’t given my mission to anyone else.” - Monsignor Shea “The dark times are when Christians are really meant to shine. Christiantiy is a religion for a broken world.” - Monsignor Shea