Martino Jerian, CEO of Amped Software, joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss AI’s impacts on video forensics. In this episode, Martino delves into the growing role of artificial intelligence in automating forensic processes, as well as the benefits and challenges it brings to the field. He shares insights on how AI is reshaping image and video enhancement, deepfake detection, and the authentication of digital evidence, while also cautioning about the risks of over-reliance on these tools. Martino provides a detailed perspective on how AI is being applied responsibly to balance efficiency with accuracy, especially in high-stakes forensic investigations.

The conversation also explores Martino's contributions to legislative discussions in the European Parliament, emphasizing the importance of educating practitioners, journalists, and the public on AI's proper use in digital forensics. If you're interested in the latest deepfake detection methods or the evolving regulatory landscape of AI, this episode offers an in-depth look at the future of video forensics.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:31 Discussing AI and Regulation

01:22 Challenges in Video Evidence

04:12 AI in Forensic Tools

07:52 Research and Trends in AI

10:48 Deepfake Detection and Legal Implications

14:45 Future of AI in Forensics

20:00 AI and Image Authentication

42:44 Staying Updated in AI and Forensics

47:12 Conclusion and Farewell

Show Notes

Video Evidence Principles, Amped Software – https://ampedsoftware.com/video-evidence-principles

Judge Blocks Use of AI-Enhanced Video Evidence, NBC – https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-state-judge-blocks-use-ai-enhanced-video-evidence-rcna141932

Ferrari Exec Foils Deepfake Attempt, Fortune – https://fortune.com/2024/07/27/ferrari-deepfake-attempt-scammer-security-question-ceo-benedetto-vigna-cybersecurity-ai/

Amped Blog – https://blog.ampedsoftware.com/

Martino’s LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinojerian/

Can AI Be Used for Forensics and Investigations? – https://www.forensicfocus.com/news/can-ai-be-used-for-forensics-and-investigations/

Paul Gullon-Scott BSc MA MSc MSc FMBPSS joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss the mental health challenges faced by digital forensic investigators (DFIs), particularly in relation to secondary traumatic stress (STS). He explains how exposure to distressing content, such as child sexual abuse material (CSAM), can lead to burnout, anxiety, and depression.

Drawing on his many years of experience in digital forensics and research, Paul highlights the lack of UK-specific studies in this area and shares his development of a well-being framework aimed at reducing the mental health toll on DFIs. This framework includes a grading policy and a well-being booklet designed to help investigators recognize stress symptoms in themselves and others, while reducing their exposure to traumatic material.

Paul also touches on his recent research into the role of neurodiversity in digital forensics and the importance of adapting mental health support to neurodiverse individuals in the profession.

00:00 – Introducing Paul Gullon-Scott Bsc MA MSc MSc FMBPSS and his Research into DFI Mental Health

07:20 – Impact of CPS Guidelines on DFIs

10:30 – Research Findings on Secondary Traumatic Stress

22:40 – Gender and Age Differences in Stress Response

30:50 – Support Systems and Coping Strategies

46:00 – Neurodiversity in Digital Forensics

52:50 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this episode, these organisations may be of help:

Samaritans – https://www.samaritans.org

Mind – https://www.mind.org.uk

Oscar Kilo – https://www.oscarkilo.org.uk/

Occupational health unit (OHU) – all police forces have access to an OHU providing a range of support services

Employee Assistance Scheme (EAS) – check with your employer to see what specific resources are available to you

GP – your GP can provide access to various local resources and make referrals to psychological support services

Content warning - this episode discusses suicidal feelings.

Prof. Sarah Morris joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss the critical topic of mental health within the digital forensics field. The conversation covers the impact of traumatic content on analysts, the gaps in mental health support services, and the challenges faced by the industry due to work-related stress.

The episode also explores strategies for coping with mental health issues, the role of AI in mitigating exposure to sensitive content, and the importance of organizational changes to better support professionals in the field.

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this episode, these organisations may be of help:

Samaritans – https://www.samaritans.org

Mind – https://www.mind.org.uk

Oscar Kilo – https://www.oscarkilo.org.uk/

Occupational health unit (OHU) – all police forces have access to an OHU providing a range of support services

Employee Assistance Scheme (EAS) – check with your employer to see what specific resources are available to you

GP – your GP can provide access to various local resources and make referrals to psychological support services

Heather Barnhart from Cellebrite joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss combating the rise of AI-generated child exploitation material. Heather shares her extensive experience and insights on the impact of AI and deepfakes on investigations, the challenges faced by law enforcement worldwide, and the importance of education in combating digital crimes.

Heather also emphasizes the significance of validating forensic tools and the necessity of educating both professionals and the public about the ethical and legal implications of AI.

00:00 – Introducing Heather Barnhart and her background in DFIR

03:05 – The Evolution of Child Exploitation and AI

07:25 – Challenges in Detecting Deepfakes

12:15 – Reporting and Legislation on AI and CSAM

17:30 – Public Awareness and Education on AI Exploitation

25:49 – Inappropriate Social Media Practices

37:05 – The Role of AI in Digital Forensics

39:20 – Validating AI findings

49:14 – Career Reflections and Future Directions

Show Notes

‘Those explicit AI-generated Taylor Swift images, unsurprisingly, came from 4Chan’, The Verge - https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/5/24061985/those-explicit-ai-generated-taylor-swift-images-unsurprisingly-came-from-4chan

Take It Down - https://takeitdown.ncmec.org/

Stop NCII - https://stopncii.org/

‘AI-generated kids draw predators on TikTok and Instagram’, Forbes - https://www.forbes.com.au/news/innovation/tiktok-predators-ai-generated-kids/

The Exodus Road - https://theexodusroad.com/

Chuck Cobb from Magnet Forensics joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss training and certification. Chuck delves into his extensive background, including his tenure in law enforcement and over a decade of experience in forensic training at both Guidance Software and Magnet. He emphasizes the evolution of forensic training, particularly highlighting the challenges and opportunities that have arisen due to technological advancements and the Covid-19 pandemic.

The conversation also touches on the generational differences in learners, the rise of microlearning, and the importance of scenario-based training that drives practical outcomes for students in both law enforcement and corporate sectors.

Additionally, Chuck explains Magnet Forensics' approach to balancing financial sustainability with providing high-quality training. This includes their strategic use of online self-paced courses, virtual instructor-led sessions, and certifications that ensure examiners are well-equipped to handle various forensic tasks.

Blake Sawyer from Amped Software joins the Forensic Focus Podcast to discuss video and image forensics in the US. He shares insights on the challenges of working with low-quality CCTV footage and how Amped Software has grown and been adopted in the US market.

The conversation delves into the role of the Scientific Working Group on Digital Evidence (SWGDE) in developing best practices for the field and how these standards influence product development. It also covers Amped's new DeepPlate technology for license plate recognition and emphasizes the importance of error margins in AI-assisted forensic analysis.

Blake goes on to discuss Amped's certification program and how it complements other industry certifications. He shares real-world case examples, including the "Pillowcase Murders" investigation, highlighting the practical applications of video forensics in solving complex crimes.

Marco Fontani joins the Forensic Focus podcast to discuss Amped Software’s latest AI-powered tool, DeepPlate. DeepPlate is a deep learning system designed to read license plates affected by common issues introduced by surveillance systems, making it a valuable asset for forensic video analysts.

Marco provides an in-depth overview of DeepPlate, explaining how it currently supports eight countries (France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, the UK, and the United States) and how it uses separate models for each country to account for varying license plate formats. He also discusses the synthetic data generation process used for training the models, ensuring privacy and mitigating bias.

The conversation delves into the limitations and considerations when using AI-based tools in a forensic workflow, with Marco emphasizing the importance of bias mitigation techniques and proper interpretation of confidence scores. He stresses that DeepPlate is an investigative tool designed to provide a second opinion, rather than a tool for court admissibility.

00:00 – What is DeepPlate and what is its purpose?

02:45 – How many countries does DeepPlate currently support?

09:30 – What are the challenges of diplomatic and personalised number plates?

11:30 – How would a forensic video analyst use DeepPlate as part of their workflow?

13:40 – Can DeepPlate be used in Court?

16:30 – What is Amped Software’s position on AI?

19:00 – What will be the impact of updated models on results?

20:50 – What kind of data is used to train the system?

23:30 – How has the system been tested?

26:15 – What are the access conditions for using DeepPlate?

28:05 – Does Amped Software retain user data for DeepPlate and if yes for how long?

29:45 – Is it possible to buy additional seats for your license?

31:00 – What are the limitations and considerations when using AI-based tools like DeepPlate for forensic and investigative purposes?

35:20 – Does Amped Software plan to use AI in other areas?

Show Notes

Washington State Judge Blocks Use Of AI-Enhanced Video As Evidence In Possible First-Of-Its-Kind-Ruling - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7181308834370494464/

Neural Network for Denoising and Reading Degraded License Plates - https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-68780-9_39

Introducing DeepPlate, Amped’s Investigative Tool for AI-Powered License Plate Reading - https://blog.ampedsoftware.com/2024/02/28/introducing-deepplate-ampeds-investigative-tool-for-ai-powered-license-plate-reading

Join Si and Desi for another episode of the Forensic Focus Podcast. This week, they discuss the lack of transparency and potential misrepresentation in the cybersecurity industry, particularly regarding the use of open-source tools by companies and the questionable interpretation of data and statistics in marketing and advertising.

The conversation also delves into the implications of relying on computer systems and algorithms to make important decisions, such as in the case of the Post Office scandal in the UK and the Centrelink repayment debacle in Australia. They emphasize the importance of human oversight, critical thinking, and considering the human impact of such decisions, rather than blindly trusting the outputs of computer systems.

00:00 – The state of the digital forensics industry

02:30 – Desi’s talk at BSides Brisbane

05:30 – Sweaty Cyber Advice and Strongman

09:40 – Companies integrating open source software

23:00 – Advertising, statistics and logical fallacies

28:00 – The Post Office scandal and computer accountability

49:00 – Security, compliance and regulations

56:00 – Closing thoughts

Show Notes

Hardly Adequate YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@hardlyadequate

Oxfordshire’s Strongman & Strongwoman - https:\oxfordshire.rocks\

CPS, Computer Records Evidence - https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/computer-records-evidence

Your Logical Fallacyis - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

British Post Office Scandal - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

The Guardian, Robodebt Scandal - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/11/robodebt-five-years-of-lies-mistakes-and-failures-that-caused-a-18bn-scandal

Tyler Vigen, Spurious Correlations - http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Forensic Focus Discord - https://discord.gg/97zKvTXHeS