Hello there, I'm Siobhan Daniels, and I'm delighted to welcome you to another episode of Retirement Rebel. Today, we're diving into a topic that's close to my heart and, I'm sure, a subject you might have found yourself pondering over as time goes by: grief and how we can better navigate the complexities it brings, especially as we age.

In today's conversation, we have Nicola Marshall, a remarkable grief-certified educator, joining us. Nicola shares her deeply personal journey, having faced the unimaginable loss of her son Lucas. She brings to the table not just her experiences but also her insights from her professional path in helping others through grief. As we journey into the later stages of life, we increasingly face the reality of losing loved ones. Nicola’s story and guidance shed light on how we can open up conversations around death, make those inevitable life transitions a bit more navigable, and perhaps help us prepare our loved ones for when we may not be around.

We’ll also talk about the incredible work Nicola does with her Meet and Grief Cafe. This is not just any space—it’s a sanctuary for those working through their grief where they can share stories, find comfort, and most importantly, talk openly about the loved ones they miss. It's about reshaping how we, as a society, manage grief, moving past our traditional English stoicism to a place where vulnerability becomes our strength and where talking about death doesn't have to be taboo.

I know that as a member of our Retirement Rebel community, you're someone who is seeking to live boldly, embrace the realities of life, and discover new ways to navigate your later years with joy and curiosity. I promise you today's episode will inspire you to think differently about grief, recognise its place in our lives, and maybe even begin planning how to make those tough conversations just a little bit easier with your own loved ones. So grab a cuppa, settle in, and let's dive into this heartfelt discussion.

02:30 - Nicola's Journey with Grief Nicola shares her personal experiences with grief, including the loss of her son, Lucas. She provides insights into how her journey led her to create a meet and grief cafe, offering a safe space for those coping with loss.

03:10 - Importance of Discussing Death We emphasise the necessity of discussing death with loved ones to ease the grieving process. Preparing for the inevitable can help reduce the fear associated with death and improve understanding.

04:51 - Childhood Memories of Grief Nicola recounts her early experiences with grief, reflecting on how children were historically excluded from funerals. She believes in involving children in grief processes to help them understand and cope with loss.

06:44 - Unresolved Childhood and Ancestral Grief Nicola tells the story of meeting Maoyan healers who helped her release unresolved childhood and ancestral grief, highlighting the importance of addressing deep-seated trauma.

07:39 - Coping with Major Losses Nicola reflects on the loss of her best friend, her brother, and the complicated dynamics of grieving while experiencing other life changes, such as becoming a new mother.

09:16 - Facing Unimaginable Grief with Lucas Nicola shares the heartbreaking account of losing her son, Lucas, and the impact it had on her life. This tragedy propelled her to help others through their own grieving processes.

11:41 - Supporting the Bereaved We discuss how people can struggle to support those who are grieving and the vital role of just being present and providing a listening ear, rather than trying to fix things.

13:56 - Children's Role in Grieving Nicola advocates for children's participation in funerals and discussions about grief,...