• It's the economy, stupid - and sanctions

  • Jun 28 2024
  • Length: 38 mins
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It's the economy, stupid - and sanctions

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  • The focus on the defence aspects of the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine often draws attention from the economic war taking place in parallel. Every few weeks the US or the EU drop another packet of sanctions on Russia, in attempts to hinder its capacity to pursue the war — and in absolute lockstep a wave of analyses, data and disinformation will appear, largely rubbishing the sanctions and their effects. In this way the EU this week dropped its 14th round of sanctions, and Russia put out another series of messages about the EU harming itself more than Russia. It is a vicious cycle that largely obfuscates not only the success of sanctions but also the broader economic picture of the war — and beyond.To wade through the data, and make sense of them, Ilana Bet-El welcomes back Agathe Demarais, Senior Policy Fellow for Geoeconomics at the ECFR and the woman who literally wrote the book on sanctions! Moving along economic measures and countermeasures, they tease out in the clearest terms the broader economic context of the war against and Ukraine, as well as the realities of the global economic situation and its future, from demography to corporate interests.As they say in Cabaret: That clinking, clanking sound / Can make the world go ‘round!Recorded on June 18 2024.Mentions and further resourcesAgathe’s inspiration: “La Horde du Contrevent” Alain DamasioAgathe’s book on sanctionsPrevious episode with Agathe “Sanctions all around”Previous episode on Latin AmericaFollow Agathe Demarais: Linkedin Twitter/XIlana Bet-ElInstagram @women_leaders_podcastOur partner European Leadership Network Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook and websiteCreditsProduction: Florence Ferrando. Music: Let Good Times RollSupported by a grant from the Foundation Open Society Institute in cooperation with the Open Society Foundations Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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