Kai Mosebach of Integral Works' personal journey starts with shadow work. He introduces:
- 03:44 the modules of Integral life practice: Shadow (unconscious), Mind (cognitive & trust), Body (emotions, life happens in your body), Spirit (mediation, observing your own system, states)
- 06:42 Integral theory - Ken Wilber initial story - All quadrants All lines (AQAL) of development
08:48 The Journey from shadow work to integral theory helped develop practices that changed his world view. He gained empathy to understand different types of people. 11:00 The Enneagram helped with a vertical shift in understanding. 12:32 Showing up. A good willed but probably a somewhat painful missionary. 14:17 understanding vertical versus horizontal development.
15:38 Kai started to lead - own shadow groups and experiments in leadership. 19:11 reflecting on his first experience of scrum/agile in terms of integral colors and structures. 23:35 vertical or mindset shifts can't be taught, you have to experience it. 26:46 What is the right methodology for the team? Get dragged v hold spacing.
31:06 Bring people into understanding - working with the heart, body and spirit. 35:21 Breakthrough moments - trust & opening and the team wanting it. 37:55 Who is the protagonist? Person who sees the pain and realizes the opportunity of development and is prepared to take that step - "It hurts more but it bothers you less" (Wilber)
39:51 The world is not the best world we can have. 41:49 You realize your theme over time - purpose - integral assessments and making development visible. 45:49 Measuring vertical development is an important step in building more effective happy teams. 46:58 Villains identified include i) Integral scene is cognitive and theoretical - it is meant to be lived ii) limited focus on shadow practice iii) perceptive on what is better...
49:17 Change and immunity - Robert Keagan - shadow work for business
50:46 Teal - bringing wholeness - structure and unconscious. 51:42 Is the framework holding space for itself or for the people? Gives ideas and structure Yet people are outside. 53:07 - Deliberately development organization DBO focuses on i) creating space, ii) shadow work and iii) it is centered on people
54:48 What is at stake here for your clients and for the industry to not take action? 56:21 Cultures and mindsets get built and our role in that. 59:13 What would be your call to action to a leadership team that feels stuck? 1:02:23 Integration of the five elements and Kai’s hope for the future, an unfolding universal v fights of conscious levels. Kai hopes that we realize the next steps. 1:04:23 The reality is each person, team, organizations and the world has to go through all development stages. All stages are good. 1:05:42 Three things to consider about vertical development. 1) explore it and out of this take action ii) Shadow - taking care of these is important (understand projection); iii) express emotion - such as understanding anger as a need for better system
1:08:22 Reflection on vertical development, what it means for agile implementation and this podcast. 1:11:22 - Substance & form - to see what has not been seen - placing people at the centre of development
1:12:08 Authenticity, a key message. 1:12:55 Structure has limited space for people. 1:15:00 Agility master (coach) & scrum master roles. 1:16:10 Wrap up & thanks
Kai - https://www.integralworks.ch/en/About-us.html
https://www.integralworks.ch/en/The-Modulator.html (view of methods across integral colours)
Theory of Everything Integral Business Spirituality - Ken Wilber
Immunity for change - Robert Kegan
Want to learn more about the co-hosts - Martin's LinkedIn Profile and Janet's LinkedIn profile
