Director Maegan Houang joins us to talk about her four music videos for Mitski, including her latest for “Star.” We also discuss why music video directors deserve more film/TV opportunities, the dangers of shooting on a lake, and whether or not she’ll let Vimeo train their AI model on her videos.

Show links:

* Maegan’s Website

* Vimeo’s Position on AI

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Our first episode features director Luke Orlando, who just released the music video for “Potential” by LAUV. In the interview, Luke talks about his new video, moonlighting as a treatment writer, and why he got so nervous when he worked with Clairo. The interview went so well, that Luke decided to just join me for the following interviews as co-host, fulfilling his dream of being the Andy Richter of the music video world.

Show links:

* The Guardian’s music video article

* Our reply to the Guardian’s music video article

* Wes Walker AI commercial

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