We're at the turning point of Thursday's career, so we're talking leaked demos, experimental left turns, and Dave Fridmann's controversial production and mix on A City By the Light Divided.

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Our Thursday discography series continues with a deep dive into War All the Time. We talk through the band's embattled relationship with Victory Records, the long, expensive recording process, and how this album spoke to both of us as young fans.

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Will our second episode become an undisputed classic that defines an entire era? Will it influence every podcast recorded in the next 20 years? Probably not, but Full Collapse sure did.

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Troy and Matt introduce the podcast and the first series of episodes on post-hardcore legends Thursday, then dive into the band's debut album, Waiting.

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