In this episode of the Out of Interest podcast, we sit down with Jeff Morgan, whose life story is nothing short of jaw-dropping. Once a key member of the infamous Sledgehammer Gang, Jeff spent years pulling off bank heists and living a life most people only see in movies. But his story doesn’t end there.

Jeff takes us through his early years, growing up in an Aboriginal community, and how the environment shaped him into someone who saw crime as just another part of life. He opens up about his time in prison, the harsh realities behind bars, and how he managed to turn it all around.

This conversation dives deep into the impact of trauma, the struggles Aboriginal people continue to face, and the systemic failures of the justice system. But at the heart of Jeff's story is a message of hope, resilience, and redemption. He didn’t just get out of prison; he got out of the mindset that trapped him there in the first place. Now, Jeff is all about giving back and helping others break the cycle.

Whether you’re curious about life in a gang, the inner workings of the prison system, or how someone can make such a radical change, this episode will leave you thinking long after it's over.

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In this eye-opening episode of the Out of Interest Podcast, Ali and Mazza sit down with true crime author Vikki Petraitis for an honest and insightful conversation.

Vikki shares her journey from teaching to writing about some of Australia’s most notorious crimes, including the Frankston murders. She dives into the psychology behind serial killers, the emotional toll on victims' families, and what it’s like to bring these stories to life.

They also touch on the media’s influence, why some crimes get glorified, and whether people can really be rehabilitated. It’s a deep, thought-provoking chat that goes beyond the headlines.
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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oointerest/
🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
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🌐 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oointerest

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In today’s powerful episode, we sit down with the legendary Wayne Schwass. Wayne is a former AFL champion who played 282 games over an outstanding career with North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans. He’s a two-time premiership player, known for his tenacity on the field and respected as one of the game’s fiercest competitors.

But beyond his football accolades, Wayne has become a leading advocate for mental health awareness. After years of battling his own mental health challenges during the peak of his AFL career, Wayne has dedicated his life to breaking the stigma around men’s mental health. He is the founder of Puka Up, a social enterprise focused on mental health education, emotional well-being, and suicide prevention. Through Puka Up, Wayne works to create environments and conversations that allow people to speak openly about mental health.

What We Covered:
This episode delves deep into the emotional and mental battles Wayne faced both during and after his AFL career. Wayne shares his personal story of suffering in silence while trying to uphold the image of a professional athlete. From the highs of winning premierships to the lows of sitting in his car after training, overwhelmed and unable to talk to anyone, Wayne reveals the hidden struggles of mental health.

We tackle the topic of wearing a mask—how Wayne spent years hiding his emotions and the damaging toll it took on his mental health. He opens up about the outdated belief that crying is a sign of weakness, especially for men in sports, and how breaking this mindset has allowed him to embrace vulnerability.

Another key part of the conversation is the identity crisis Wayne experienced after retiring from AFL. For years, his career defined him, but today, he’s more focused on being remembered for his work in mental health advocacy through Puka Up. Wayne stresses the importance of finding your identity beyond your job and truly understanding who you are as a person.

We also dive into the importance of mental well-being, with Wayne emphasizing that mental health needs to be prioritized just like servicing your car. He explains how many of us neglect our mental health, despite it being one of the most crucial aspects of our overall well-being.

One of the most emotional parts of this episode is when Wayne opens up about his relationship with his father. He talks about the struggle to tell his 81-year-old dad that he loves him, and how those unspoken feelings have shaped their relationship. It’s a powerful reminder of how important it is to express love and emotions, even when it feels difficult.

Wayne’s raw and candid story reminds us that mental health struggles can affect anyone, no matter how successful they may appear. The episode challenges us all to take a step back, reflect on whether we’re hiding behind a mask, and prioritise mental well-being in our daily lives.

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Hejaz, Australia’s leading financial group, offers a comprehensive suite of Sharia-compliant products and services to the Islamic community. Dive into the world of Islamic finance and discover more about Hejaz Financial Services at:

www.hejazfs.com.au

Hosted by Ali Ozyon:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mrozyon/
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-ozyon-75168285/

Co-Hosted by Muzzammil Dhedhy:
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muftimuzza/

Connect with Out of Interest Podcast:
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🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@oointerest
💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Out of Interest /
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