Lauren and Chan are sharing a deep dive on everything we know about the battle between Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni so far. The gals bring everyone up to speed on the drama that surrounded It Ends With Us when the movie was released in August 2024 and the tide of public opinion turning on Blake Lively(1:41). They discuss Blake’s bombshell legal complaint against Justin that dropped just before Christmas 2024, including the specifics of each complaint (6:12). Lauren and Chan dive into the It Ends With Us premier, where Justin and the Wayfarer Studios team were segregated from the rest of the cast (28:35). The gals get into Justin’s hiring of a PR crisis team following the IEWU premier, the massive public backlash against Blake (29:51), and the effects of the smear campaign (32:44). They dive into Justin’s lawsuit against the New York Times(41:16), as well as the allegations that involve Blake (48:50) Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the points in both Justin and Blake's filings where two things can be true (53:24).

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Lauren and Chan are so excited to be chatting with Heather Dubrow from Real Housewives of Orange County! They dive into the double standards of plastic surgery, and what constitutes a sexy upgrade vs. a taboo procedure (1:26). Heather shares her wisdom on becoming the best version of yourself (3:46), getting through tough parenting stages (8:55), and raising children who are grateful instead of entitled (13:19). Heather talks about her marriage and her advice on nurturing a long-term relationship(20:23). She gives the exclusive scoop on her and Terry’s living situation and what is next for their home (30:04). Heather mentions it all, down to opening up about the tweaks and procedures she has had done and which practitioners she would recommend (36:07). Heather dishes on her diet and exercise regiment, including what has been the biggest game changer in her life (40:30). Finally, Heather answers some rapid-fire questions, including her thoughts on Tamra’s RHOC antics, a behind the scenes peek at Housewives production, and what she is working on next (44:37).

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This week we are deep diving into the lives of Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK, Jr. and their iconic American romance. Who exactly was Carolyn before she waltzed into JFK Jr.'s glittering orbit? What exactly made the American prince forego his supermodel habit in favor of a normal girl from White Plains, New York? How did Jackie O. feel about her son as he rose to prominence as the American sex symbol of his time? Why was Carolyn two hours late to her own wedding? And what happened on the fateful night when they met their untimely demise? We answer these questions and much, much more. Buckle in, bb's!

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