How can you experiment in a world of uncertainty? Tom explores Principle 3: Experimentation is self-discovery. Take action on your reflections to discover who you. Together with guest Shelly Kawatra, an explorer of inner worlds, they discuss how to question your belief systems.

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Show Notes

Tom’s personal story about why he created this principle. [01:33]

Challenges with the principle that are explored in this episode. [04:12]

Introduction to Shelly Kawatra. [04:37]

What Shelly is exploring, including her connection with the extended universe. [05:57]

Pauses trigger reflection. We often brush off negative feelings in our fast-paced lives and need mental space to process them. [08:45] 

It’s difficult to admit to others that you’re unhappy when you’re succeeding according to their definitions of success. [09:25]

What belief systems have Shelly challenged through her experiments? [11:20]

“For me, my head was my heart” [12:46]

How doing what feels right helped Shelly to experiment. [14:10]

Connection with others helps us connect with ourselves. [18:26]

What’s the most important experiment Shelly took in her life? [19:02]

How does Shelly respond to negative self-talk? [22:03]

Voices that take you out of the present are a source of misery. Thinking is suffering [22:30]. 

Shelly’s advice for people who want to experiment. [24:23]

Understand what need you are seeking to experiment in and whether that comes from you or external expectations. [25:10]

“It becomes a life of choice, over a life of should’s” [28:45]

What are Shelly’s future plans for experimentation? [28:50]

We can have plans, but we shouldn’t become too attached to them. [29:15]

Shelly being on this podcast is an experiment for her – so meta. [31:30]

Summary of the episode. [35:20]

Tom’s reflection on Shelly’s story. [43:49]