The Deep Wade Podcast

By: John R. McMillan and Nick Chambers
  • Summary

  • An in-depth podcast devoted to educating people about the latest fisheries and watershed science, a shared passion for fly angling, and their intersection and combined implications for conservation in a rapidly changing world. Tune in for monthly deep-dives into all things fish and fishing, along with monthly bonus episodes focused on topical issues and interviews with expert scientists and anglers.

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Episodes
  • Interview with Navajo Flyfisher Ruth Simms
    Jan 8 2025

    Another interview from the original Barbless OP Flyfishing Podcast. In this episode John interviews Ruth Simms, an angler and engineer from the PNW who is also a Native American that loves to fly fish. Ruth has been fishing since a young age, and fly fishing for the past decade. We take a deep dive into her background, education, why she loves fly fishing, and how her interest in engineering has helped her become a better angler. Join us to learn more about Ruth and her passion for angling and why she spends so much time on the river (and lakes and the ocean, or wherever the fishing takes her).

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    1 hr and 30 mins
  • Interview with Dr. Jack Stanford Professor of Everything Rivers and Fish
    Dec 16 2024

    In this episode from the original Barbless Podcast John interviews Dr. Jack Stanford, one of the world's preeminent river geomorphologists and fishery biologists. Jack has studied rivers and fish across the North Pacific Rim from Kamchatka (Russia) to Montana. Our wide-ranging conversation includes Jack’s origins as an angler and scientist, his major research findings, and why he believes good habitat and wild salmon are the key to sustainable fisheries. The episode includes amazing stories, such as thousands of stoneflies pouring through water faucets in a Montana town. That’s right, stoneflies. Tune in for this, and more, if you want to learn more about rivers and fish.

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    58 mins
  • Interview with The Metal God - Bill Herzog
    Nov 30 2024

    A Black Friday special. In this episode I back to the clock to one of my favorite guests from the original Barbless Podcast back in 2020. I interview Bill Herzog – the Metal God, and one of the best steelheaders the planet has ever known. We talk his roots as an angler, why he loves spoon fishing, some of his best steelhead stories, and ultimately, why he has increasingly turned to swinging a fly. All that and more, so tune in if you want a history lesson on steelheading and a better understanding of Bill's history and why he now loves swinging flies.

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    1 hr and 7 mins

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