The Operations Room: A Podcast for COO’s

By: Bethany Ayers & Brandon Mensinga
  • Summary

  • We are the COO coaches to help you successfully scale in this new world where efficiency is as important as growth. Remember when valuations were 3-10x ARR and money wasn’t free? We do. Each week we share our experiences and bring in scale up experts and operational leaders to help you navigate both the burning operational issues and the larger existential challenges. Beth Ayers is the former COO of Peak AI, NewVoiceMedia and Codilty and has helped raise over $200m from top funds - Softbank, Bessemer, TCV, MCC, Notion and Oxx. Brandon Mensinga is the former COO of Signal AI and Trint. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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  • 74. The Art and Science of 1:1 Meetings
    Mar 13 2025

    In this episode we discuss: the art and science of 1 to 1 meetings. We are joined by Dr. Steven Rogelberg, CEO, Board Member, Editor, Author, Chief Talent Officer, Director.

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    We chat about the following with Steven Rogelberg:

    1. Are your one-on-ones actually driving engagement, or are they just another meeting on the calendar?
    2. What message are you really sending when you cancel a one-on-one—and how does it impact employee trust?
    3. Why is listening more than speaking the secret to making one-on-ones truly effective?
    4. How can structured one-on-ones boost productivity, retention, and even inclusion within your team?
    5. Are most managers failing at one-on-ones simply because they’ve never been trained to do them well?

    References
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogelberg/
    • stevenrogelberg.com

    Biography

    Dr. Steven G. Rogelberg is a Chancellor’s Professor at UNC Charlotte and a leading expert on meetings. An award-winning organizational psychologist, he has over 200 publications, 12,000+ citations, and received the prestigious Humboldt Award for his research. Adam Grant calls him the “world’s leading expert on how to fix meetings.”

    His book The Surprising Science of Meetings appeared on 25+ “best of” lists, including The Washington Post’s #1 leadership book to watch. His latest book, Glad We Met: The Art and Science of 1:1 Meetings, has earned high praise, including recognition from SHRM and Forbes.

    Rogelberg has been featured on CBS This Morning, CNN, BBC World, NPR’s Morning Edition, and major publications like The WSJ, NY Times, Bloomberg, and National Geographic. His keynotes have been delivered worldwide at top organizations including Google, Amazon, Pfizer, and the United Nations.

    In 2022, he testified before the U.S. Congress and was the inaugural winner of SIOP’s Humanitarian Award.

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    Summary

    14:40 The Importance of One-on-Ones

    17:48 Common Mistakes in One-on-Ones

    23:40 Building Trust and Connection

    26:51 Key Elements of Effective One-on-Ones

    27:22 Surprising Insights from Research

    30:34 Training and Supporting Line Managers

    33:28 Creating a Culture of Effective Meetings



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    39 mins
  • 73. Building an AI First Organisation Part 2
    Mar 6 2025

    In this episode we discuss: Unlocking AI for Non-Technical Leaders. We are joined by Charlie Cowan, Founder of Kowalah and author of "How To Sell Tech" and “The Revenue Operations Playbook”.

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    We chat about the following with Charlie Cowan:

    • Is AI more accessible than we think?
    • What’s the difference between AI agents and workflows—and why does it matter for businesses looking to scale?
    • How can organizations build their own AI-powered tools instead of relying solely on SaaS solutions?
    • What role does leadership play in AI adoption, and why is AI literacy now a must-have skill for future executives?
    • Can a simple “power hour” or habit shift really transform your productivity—and what does AI have to do with it?

    References
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/charliecowan/
    • www.charliecowan.ai
    • www.kowalah.com

    Biography

    Charlie works with CEOs and senior leaders looking to embed AI behaviours across their organisation.

    With a 25 year career in SaaS, consulting and enterprise sales, Charlie bridges the gap between AI technology and practical applied use cases that help teams work smarter and faster.

    Charlie is the author of two books - How To Sell Tech and The Revenue Operations Playbook.

    Charlie is the founder of Kowalah, an AI-powered platform that helps buying teams to run a great buying processes, pick the right vendors and reduce the fear of messing up.

    Charlie built Kowalah as a solo-founder using AI development tools.

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    Summary

    26:36 Introduction to AI Adoption for Non-Technical Executives

    027:16 Understanding AI Optimism vs. Pessimism

    28:08 Defining AI Policies for Effective Implementation

    29:52 The Concept of Agentic AI

    31:23 Distinguishing Between Agents and Workflows

    33:01 Building Effective AI Agents

    37:49 Evaluating Future Tech Stacks for AI Integration

    43:05 Empowering Leadership in the Age of AI

    46:06 Navigating AI Tools for Policy Management

    46:23 Crafting Effective Prompts for AI Tools

    49:54 Building a Data Repository for Enhanced Insights

    51:44 The Power Hour: Maximizing Productivity



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    56 mins
  • 72. Is the COO the Single Source of Truth?
    Feb 27 2025

    In this episode we discuss: Is the COO the single source of truth? We are joined by Eric Collins, Investor, Serial Entrepreneur, CEO & Founding Member at Impact X Capital investing in underrepresented entrepreneurs; Author of We Don’t Need Permission (amzn.to/3Qp6G9d); & Host of Channel 4's The Money Maker.

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    We chat about the following with Eric Collins:

    1. What makes the COO the true "source of truth" in scaling a venture-backed company?
    2. How can COOs balance growth while CFOs maintain financial discipline—and why does this partnership make or break success?
    3. Why is succession planning not just a CEO concern, but a critical step for every COO aiming to lead?
    4. Can a COO ever match a founder's passion, or is their power found in something entirely different?
    5. What does it really take for a COO to transition into the CEO seat—and what role does backfilling play in that journey?

    References
    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericdcollinsba/?originalSubdomain=uk
    • www.impactxcapital.com

    Biography

    Eric Collins is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and host of Channel 4's The Money Maker. He’s held leadership roles at AOL, TimeWarner, SwiftKey/Microsoft, and Touch Surgery/Medtronic.

    Appointed by President Obama to the Small Business Administration’s Council on Underserved Communities, Eric now serves on the boards of Cirata, UnLtd, Crux, and Autograph ABP. A sought-after speaker and Audi brand ambassador, he’s consistently featured on The Powerlist of influential Black Britons.

    His award-winning book, We Don’t Need Permission (Penguin), advocates for investing in Black and underrepresented entrepreneurs as a powerful driver of social change.

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    Summary

    23:55 The unique role that the CEO plays in a scaling organisation

    28:05 The value of the COO next to the CFO

    30:58 Progressing as a COO

    33:11 CEO and COO Succession Planning

    33:51 The Passion of Founders vs. COOs

    39:56 Planning for Success as a COO

    43:16 Setting the Agenda in Board Meetings



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    53 mins

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