This week's episode is the fourth installment The Petty 8ight!

I love talking to Pettyheads, musicians, and other people who have been influenced by Tom or his music in myriad ways, but I thought it would be neat to see what non-fans, or non-hardcore fans think of Tom's music if I threw deeper cuts at them.

My latest #Petty8ight guest is the wonderful Ian Winick, who has been an incredibly supportive and engaged listener of one of my other podcasts, Seaside Pod Review. We share a love of Queen, Marillion, and a lot of the same comedy, as well as a love of words and of the art and craft of songwriting. It was an absolute joy to spend a couple and a half hours in Ian's company and I know you're going to love his first-listen insights into these eight deeper cuts from Tom's catalogue.

If you want to listen to Ian's fantastic album that he released with John Loves Julie, you can find that here: https://soundcloud.com/johnlovesjulie and you can find the song "Lucky You" here: https://soundcloud.com/johnlovesjulie/lucky-you

If you want to find his equally brilliant, and very very funny, podcast "Lord of Adders Black" which he co-hosts with the marvelous Michael Smith, you can find that here!

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/lord-of-adders-black/id1753002260

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Ly39A9IrwNlfCcALAAk2V?si=f59e268304d24edf

NOTE: There is some profanity during my conversation with Ian.

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All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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As the fall leaves come in, Eric Senich starts thinking about listening to his favourite Tom Petty album! Eric is also a fellow drummer so the song he picked to perform with the Heartbreakers is a Stan Lynch part!

It's 10 Questions time again and Eric didn't disappoint with his answers!

Don't forget to check out Eric's website here, where you can find links to all the episodes: https://www.bookedonrock.com

If you want to catch my appearance on Booked On Rock, you can find that here: https://tinyurl.com/2e3vsu2n

And if you want to hear Eric chatting to Warren Zanes about Bruce Springsteen's album, "Nebrask", that's available here: https://tinyurl.com/4wcyhw8a

NOTE: There is some profanity during my conversation with Eric.

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All music, ncluding the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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Today’s episode is a wonderful, sprawling conversation that I had with the inimitable host of the Booked on Rock podcast, Eric Senich. Eric and I met through the Van Halen show, And the Podcast Will Rock, which is hosted by my good pal and Ultimate Catalogue Clash co-host Corey Morrissette. Eric’s knowledge of rock n roll is staggering - and at times quite intimidating - as his insatiable thirst for knowledge is coupled with an excellent memory for facts and timelines. On top of this, he’s just a genuinely nice fella and we spent a really enjoyable couple of hours visiting and chatting about music and of course, Tom’s career. Make sure you check out Booked on Rock. I’ll leave a couple of relevant links to specific in the episode notes but for now, sit back, relax, and enjoy my conversation with Eric Senich.

Check out Eric's website here, where you can find links to all the episodes: https://www.bookedonrock.com

If you want to catch my appearance on Booked On Rock, you can find that here: https://tinyurl.com/2e3vsu2n

And if you want to hear Eric chatting to Warren Zanes about Bruce Springsteen's album, "Nebrask", that's available here: https://tinyurl.com/4wcyhw8a

NOTE: There is some profanity during my conversation with Eric.

Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show.

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All music, ncluding the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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Another excellent conversation with John about an album that we both obviously adore. We both talked a little about how the album lands differently for people of a certain age and particularly the way certain songs resonate with parents. We also get into drumming styles, Spotify stats, and for the first time, we don't run through the producer-for-a-day segment as we agreed heading into this one that you just don't need to change Wildflowers. Or do you.......?

Do check out www.4for4.com if you're into fantasy football and follow John on Twitter at @4for4_John

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt6BLRWuuAR43zHpNKIirOw

All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com/

Logo provided Ed Booth, who you can find here: https://edboothart.com/

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, Conversations with Tom Petty, this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research.

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Every story needs an ending and this song gives us that final scene of the hero walking away into the sunset to begin the next chapter of their life. It’s an ending that starts a new beginning. It’s a line drawn under the statement that the entire album makes. The statement that pain doesn’t define us. Our reaction to it does. It brings us back to that thread of redemption that pervades Tom’s entire catalogue. It speaks of the future, rather than the past, as its final word.

Today’s guest conversation sees the return, for the second time this week, of Jake Thistle! We recorded this way back in March, when Jake was on the show to talk about his album, The Half Left Out. As always, Jake was insightful and incredibly generous with his time. I simply can’t wait to see him perform down in Gainesville, especially performing the Wildflowers set and then a solo set inside the Heartwood. It’s going to be so cool!

You can find the song here: https://youtu.be/nS2C8BmHP-c

Here is the alternate version: https://youtu.be/hVENPHePfOE

Here's the home demo recording: https://youtu.be/gXyy5paqU1o

And here's the live version: https://youtu.be/8AKpIYkiivI

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All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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This episode is a fairly hastily organized chat that I had with Jeff Slate and Jake Thistle about the upcoming Wildflowers and Some of the Rest mini-tour that they’re embarking on which kicks off at the Tom Petty Weekend in Gainesville. It was fun digging into the dynamic between the two of them. We recognized that Jake has been performing with Jeff for pretty much a third of his life, that they haven’t yet nailed out exactly who is singing which songs, and that the name of their supporting band is the Gator City Allstars!

You can find tickets for all four (so far) dates here:

Jeff Slate: https://jeffslatehq.com/calendar

Jake Thistle: https://jakethistle.com/events

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All music other than the piano version of Wildflowers, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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I’m expanding the non-Petty aspect of the podcast just a little by looking for conversations with artists who might not be strongly or directly influenced by Tom’s music but share some characteristic or characteristics with his writing or approach to the art of songwriting.

This week’s guest, Amelia McLean, is a Nashville-based songwriter who is preparing to release her debut album, possibly later this year. We chatted for a little over two hours and listened to parts of some of the songs from that new album, which she very generously shared with me ahead of our conversation. It takes a lot to surprise me in music these days because, as the Barenaked Ladies once wrote, “It’s all been done”. So how refreshing to find an artist that has something original to say and has found the perfect collaborators to bring her artistic vision to life.

Amelia uses her own life experiences, some of which have been hugely unpleasant, to create these beautiful, sometimes haunted, sometimes heartbreaking, always powerful sonic oil paintings which you can stand back and admire as a whole or get close to and really admire the detail and precision of a master at their craft. There is a depth, humanity, and reslience that underlies her work, making it a deeply affecting journey that she brings us on, as she tells of something of her life and herself through her songs.

You can find Amelia on social media at the following places:

Instagram: https://instagram.com/ameliamcleanmusic

Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ameliamcleanmusic

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUDwyDGK6iHsqkO_EN4dC4A

You can also support Amelia on her Patreon account, here: https://patreon.com/AmeliaMcLean

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All music other than the piano version of Wildflowers, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

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Tom explains to author Paul Zollo in “Conversations with Tom Petty” that “I remember us tracking it all night and being really frustrated that it wasn’t working. Then they came on the idea of having us all walk out, and “Play this like we’ve never heard it before. I’m just gonna start playing, and whatever we fall in on, we’ll go that way.” And that was the take. It worked. I started to diddle on guitar, we went around a couple of times, Ferrone dropped in on that beat, and bang, we had it. But we would have never had that feel if we hadn’t have done that.” And this is one of the many reasons why Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are one of the all time great rock n roll bands. They can just improvise and come up with exactly the right feel for a song as epic in scale and emotional weight as Crawling Back to You. Tom concludes by saying “That’s the value of a live group in the studio. I’d have never come up with that without them.”

Today’s guest conversation sees the return of the very first Tom Petty fan I spoke to on the podcast, the wonderful, encyclopedically knowledgeable Dallas Heliker! We dug into the alternate take, live takes and discussed differences, strengths and… well there are no weaknesses in this song are there!? We also dug pretty heavily into the lyrics of this one and the differences between the lyrics in the demo version and the final version. It was fantastic to reconnect with Dallas and this certainly won’t be the last time he’ll appear on the show.

You can find the song here: https://youtu.be/QqAEigytf7I

Here is the alternate version: https://youtu.be/5ccIrg3AWWM

Here's the home demo recording: https://youtu.be/BbiAeqH4TsA

And here's the fantastic PBS special version: https://youtu.be/OtbzIDnEGsI

Don't forget to follow me on social media, like, subscribe, and please, leave a rating if you like the show.

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All music, including the theme song, provided by my very best friend Randy Woods. Check him out at https://www.randywoodsband.com

The Tom Petty Project is not affiliated with the Tom Petty estate in any way and when you’re looking for Tom’s music, please visit the official YouTube channel first and go to tompetty.com for official merchandise.

A last very special thanks to Paul Zollo. Without his book, "Conversations with Tom Petty", this podcast wouldn't be nearly as much fun to research. And further thanks to Warren Zanes for his outstanding book "Petty, the Biography".

Producer: Kevin Brown

Executive Producer: Paul Roberts

Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/the-tom-petty-project.

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