It’s results day and while students across the country celebrate their A-levels, BTEC and T-levels, university funding has come back into the limelight. And what’s better than one former education minister? Two! Gillian Keegan is sitting in for George this week, and she and Ed Balls consider the best course of action to make the education sector pay for itself.

Plus, Gillian makes her case for more business people in Parliament. Would they really drive more growth than career politicians with PPE degrees?

And in the next instalment of our summer conversations, Ed and George give the 2024 intake of MPs their top tips for standing out from the crowd - but does Gillian agree?

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