Welcome aboard this week's episode about the Badger - one of the last coal-powered steamships to run on the Great Lakes. What makes her stand out from other ships like her? What twist is in store for you to find out? Tune in with hosts Andrew and Michelle as they talk a lot about railroads, steamships, badgers, and even the game of Monopoly.

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Join Andrew and Michelle this week as they talk about the mysterious disappearance of the Erie Board of Trade. Oooh, spooky! Well, the boat itself wasn't, but was her demise the revenge of a petty and jilted ghost? Was the ship cursed? Did the ship exist at all? Are ghost ships even real? And what has been haunting Michelle's apartment?? Tune in this week for all the exclusive details and exciting twists about a boat who's name is a little yawn-worthy however her story is anything but. Welcome aboard!

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Welcome back to Michelle, Andrew, and all of their wonderful listeners to this week's episode and the first time recording together in too long. Excuse the extra wily-ness of these two as they discuss the not-so-tragic, yet tragic loss of the David W. Mills. From tangents to motorbike races to swimming squirrels to illnesses and everything in-between, sit back, settle in, grab some popcorn and enjoy the show. Oh, and welcome aboard!

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Happy New Years! Join your favorite sibling duo, Michelle and Andrew, as they cover the tragic loss of the Carl D Bradley. If this story sounds familiar, it's because it closely echoes the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. The twist? This sinking *spoiler alert!* occurred about 17 years prior. Find out the soggy details on this week's episode oh, and welcome aboard!

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We made it to episode 20! Join Andrew and Michelle as they cover not one, not two, but three shipwrecks that all happened on the same fateful night in 1940. However, they didn't cause each other to sink. So what happened to the SS Anna C. Minch, the SS William B. Davock, and the SS Novadoc? Tune in this week to find out that and more. Welcome aboard good ole number 20!

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Happy Holidays and welcome aboard this week's episode! Andrew and Michelle cover the wonderful yet tragic lore of the Rouse Simmons, the Christmas tree ship, and her beloved captain, Captain Herman "Santa" Schuenemann. The legacy of the Rouse Simmons lives on today with the USCGC Mackinaw making the same trip for the past 25 years. Tune in this week for some holiday cheer!

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https://shipwreckmuseum.com/visit/whitefish-point-light/#:~:text=Whitefish%20Point%20marks%20the%20eastern,the%20vicinity%20of%20Whitefish%20Point.

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Welcome aboard part two about Le Griffon, one of the most notorious Ghost Ships on the Great Lakes. Join Andrew and Michelle as they go through some potential occurrences that happened to cause the loss of this ship. Is it technically found? Is it still missing? Find out on this week's episode of Under the Waves!

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https://divers24.com/the-legendary-1679-wreck-of-le-griffon-finally-found/

Hosts Andrew and Michelle dive into a history lesson regarding the making and build-up of Le Griffon. Le Griffon, now seen as a ghost ship, was the second European ship to sink on the Great Lakes following the Frontenac which was actually en route to and carrying supplies for the building of Le Griffon. Settle down to enjoy this step back in time and learn more about Le Griffon prior to her sinking... or disappearance? Find out next week. Anchors away!

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