• Finding a Mentor in Your Early Years as a Football Official
    Sep 2 2024

    Hey everybody, we took a week off from the podcast so Joel could celebrate his 30 year wedding anniversary in Alaska. We're back at it and in this episode Joel and Kirk Russell are joined by special guests Jerry Reimers and Joe Magnuson from the San Diego Football Officials Association. The focus of the discussion is on the importance of finding a mentor in the first few years as an official. Jerry shares his experience starting out as an official and the challenges he faced, while Joe provides insights on how to support and develop newer officials on the field. The episode also covers the role of technology in training and development during the off-season, as well as the value of attending camps and clinics to improve officiating skills. Take advantage of this insightful conversation for tips and advice on becoming a better high school football official.

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    38 mins
  • How To Be a Championship Quality Line Judge with D1 College Official Nick Brigati
    Aug 18 2024

    In this episode of Your First Downs, hosts Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell are joined by Nick Brigati, a D1 Line Judge from Ohio. They delve into the key differences between the wing position at the high school and college level, focusing on communication, confidence, and observational skills. Nick shares tips on effectively managing coach interactions, diffusing situations, and mastering the responsibilities of the LJ position. He also highlights the importance of understanding the nuances of different rules and situations, such as false starts, encroachment, and holding calls. The episode concludes with a discussion on transitioning from high school to college officiating, emphasizing the need to trust and rely on fellow officials for support and accurate officiating. Join in for an insightful conversation on excelling in the wing position as a football official.

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    38 mins
  • Mastering the Back Judge Position with Chuck Hickey
    Aug 12 2024

    In this episode of Your First Downs, hosts Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell sit down with Chuck Hickey, a seasoned back judge and three-time state championship official from Colorado. They discuss the importance of the back judge position and how to excel in it. Chuck shares his journey to becoming a back judge and the challenges and responsibilities that come with the role. They also address listener questions and provide insights into dealing with difficult situations on the field. Additionally, Chuck shares advice for new officials and highlights the importance of staying engaged throughout the game. Tune in to learn from one of Colorado's best back judges!

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    34 mins
  • Think you're ready to wear the white hat? How to become a referee with Dan Gilman
    Aug 5 2024

    Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell interview Dan Gilman, a 40-year officiating veteran and current referee and crew chief. Dan shares his insights and experiences on becoming a referee, offering valuable advice for newer officials that aspire to the role. The conversation covers from the fun and challenging aspects of being a referee, the importance of confidence and body language, handling mistakes and building resilience, and conducting effective pre-game discussions. Listeners will gain practical tips for improving their officiating skills and preparing for leadership roles in the field. Don't miss this episode full of valuable wisdom from an experienced official.

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    39 mins
  • Becoming a Championship Wing Official: Insights from Ryan Rourke
    Jul 29 2024

    In this episode, Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell are joined by Ryan Rourke, a multi-championship linesman from Northern Colorado. Together, they discuss how to become a championship-level wing official in high school football. They cover topics such as the importance of rule knowledge, communication with coaches and chain crew, spotting the ball, and managing sideline situations. Ryan also emphasizes the need to maintain composure and not escalate arguments with coaches. This episode provides valuable insights for new officials looking to excel in the wing position and advance to championship games.

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    34 mins
  • The Lost Episode: Getting through those first game butterflies with Megan and John
    Aug 30 2023

    Our lost episode! Due to a technical glitch, this episode did not publish as scheduled in 2023. Like a fine wine, it's even better a year later! Tune in as Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell are joined by experienced officials John Armstrong and Megan Griesser to discuss how they overcame the nervousness and challenges of their first games as football officials. They share their personal experiences and offer new officials valuable advice on building confidence, interacting with coaches, and navigating the rulebook, mechanics, and philosophies of officiating. Joel and Kirk emphasize the importance of seeking help and learning from experienced officials and the need to embrace mistakes and continually strive for improvement. This episode provides a wealth of practical tips and insights to help new officials succeed in their journey.

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    42 mins
  • Become an "Officiating Machine" - An Interview with the legendary Randy Campbell
    Aug 23 2023

    Join the conversation as we navigate the best practices of football officiating with veteran referee Randy Campbell. With an illustrious career including 20 postseason appearances, 18 FBS bowl assignments, and the 2013 BCS national championship, Randy is a treasure trove of wisdom and practical insights. He takes us through the maze of transitioning from high school to college officiating, underlining the importance of mentorship, understanding the rules, and mastering the mechanics.

    Beyond the whistle and the playbook, we delve into the less talked about, yet vital aspects of officiating. Fitness, physical appearance, mindset - all these play a crucial role in an official's career. Randy shares firsthand how looking the part can make or break an official's career trajectory. We also discuss the immense value of attending camps, clinics and college scrimmages to gain experience and exposure in the competitive world of officiating.

    In the final segment, Randy offers valuable advice for rookie. Balancing personal life with a demanding career is a challenge, and Randy candidly discusses how his wife's support played a pivotal role in his journey. He also highlights the importance of setting realistic goals, acquainting oneself with the rule differences between high school and college, and carving out daily time for the rule book. Tune in for an insightful episode packed with practical tips and sage wisdom from one of the best in the business and a legendary college official.

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  • Coaching Perspective: The Importance of Officials in High School Football
    Aug 16 2023

    In this episode, podcast hosts Joel Pogar and Kirk Russell interview Coach John Shipley from Conifer High School in Colorado. Coach Shipley shares his thoughts on the role of officials in the game of football and the importance of their presence on the field. They discuss various topics, including the pregame interaction between coaches and officials, communication on the sidelines, dealing with fouls and penalties, and the role of parents in promoting good conduct. Coach Shipley emphasizes the need for respect, responsibility, and proper communication from all parties involved. He also highlights the value of having mentors and role models for new officials in order to improve their knowledge and understanding of the game. Overall, the episode provides valuable insights from a coach's perspective on the relationship between coaches and officials in high school football.

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