Episodes

  • Variable Comp for CSMs: Motivation or Misstep?
    Jun 27 2024

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    Setting up a variable compensation plan for Customer Success Managers (CSMs) is fraught with challenges. In this week's episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln dive deep into the intricacies of variable comp plans. They discuss the potential pitfalls, share effective strategies, and emphasize the irreplaceable role of leadership in motivating CSMs.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION: "What's the best approach for a variable comp plan for a Customer Success Manager?"

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • The challenges and pitfalls of variable compensation plans in Customer Success.
    • Effective ways to structure incentives for Customer Success Managers.
    • The importance of leadership and management in motivating and guiding Customer Success teams.

    QUOTES:

    1. Johan Nilsson (00:01:22): "Anyone out there who's been trying to set this up knows it is and can be a challenge. And there's many ins and outs to this one."
    2. Lincoln Murphy (00:05:35): "In Customer Success Management, variable comp often means, 'I'm going to pay you 70 percent of your salary, and you better do your job or you're not going to get the other 30 percent.'"
    3. Lincoln Murphy (00:07:1`): "In Customer Success, variable comp is generally positioned as a threat. It only has downside potential."
    4. Johan Nilsson (00:10:42): "I've seen variable comp plans that incentivize CSMs to only work and maybe even push upgrades on customers that aren't ready, while ignoring those who need more attention."
    5. Lincoln Murphy (00:15:12): "You pay them their market rate salary and you can bonus them on other stuff. That's called being a manager. That's called being a leader."

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    26 mins
  • Predicting Customer Churn: Essential Metrics and Strategies
    Jun 12 2024

    Retention training starts June 17, 2024. Learn more and sign-up here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/copy-of-the-retention-program-us-oct-24

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    Customer churn is a critical issue that can impact a company's growth and stability. In this week’s episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln dive into the essential metrics for predicting churn and discuss effective strategies to mitigate it. They share insights on understanding customer behavior, proactive engagement, and how to communicate potential churn risks to management.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:

    "Can you summarize the key indicators for predicting churn in advance?"

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • The importance of understanding key indicators for predicting churn
    • Strategies for addressing and mitigating lagging churn
    • Effective communication with management about potential churn issues

    QUOTES:
    Lincoln Murphy (02:50): "Meaningful usage is the main thing to look at when predicting churn."

    Johan Nilsson (04:32): "Stakeholder changes are a massive indicator that churn could be on the horizon."

    Lincoln Murphy (06:45): "Proactive engagement with customers can significantly reduce the risk of churn."

    Johan Nilsson (09:20): "The iceberg metaphor helps illustrate the hidden risks beneath the surface of current churn rates."

    Lincoln Murphy (13:52): "Our daily work in Customer Success is crucial to ensuring long-term customer retention."

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    36 mins
  • Orchestrated Advocacy: Creating Social Proof without Overwhelming CSMs
    Jun 6 2024

    Customer Advocacy training starts June 10, 2024. Learn more and sign-up here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/the-advocacy-program-eujun24

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    Unlock the power of real, enthusiastic customer advocacy. This week on Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln explore the strategies to turn your customers into your most potent marketing force. They lay down the importance of a systematic approach to advocacy, tracking, and making data-backed asks to cultivate authentic customer champions.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    “How can customers see the value in being advocates? What's in it for the customer?”

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • Setting the stage for advocacy through "orchestration"
    • How tracking advocacy influences can be leveraged for future asks
    • Graduated Advocacy Asks: Making increasingly impactful requests over time

    QUOTES:
    Lincoln Murphy (18:00): "When you get to that point, the ask goes over much better because it's expected."

    Johan Nilsson (19:00): "We need to keep track of that referral process, not just for our sake but to better our advocacy ask later."

    Lincoln Murphy (20:00): "By reminding them how important unbiased reviews were to them, you make them want to share their story."

    Lincoln Murphy (21:00): "We're having larger, more intense asks over time, and that's invoking consistency and commitment."

    Johan Nilsson (22:00): "You need to operationalize this to get advocacy going. It's not just about asking; it's about setting things up."

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    24 mins
  • How to get your Customers to Advocate for you (References, Referrals, and Reviews)
    May 30 2024

    Customer Advocacy training starts June 10, 2024. Learn more and sign-up here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/the-advocacy-program-eujun24

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    In this enlightening episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln unpack the intricacies of customer advocacy, focusing on the subtle yet powerful differences between earned and incentivized advocacy. They explore why genuine, unsolicited customer testimonials are more effective and how to encourage them. Additionally, they discuss the pitfalls of offering incentives for customer reviews and share how to frame the 'ask' to create more compelling and authentic advocacy.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    “How can customers see the value in being advocates? What's in it for the customer?”

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • The psychology and implications of "earned" versus "incentivized" advocacy.
    • Why putting a monetary value on a customer’s time can backfire when seeking reviews.
    • Making the customer the 'hero' as a tactic for eliciting authentic, compelling stories.

    QUOTES:

    Lincoln Murphy (10:22): "We generally want earned advocacy rather than incentivized."

    Johan Nilsson (11:07): "You put some sort of value on the time you request from the customer, and that can be really bad."

    Lincoln Murphy (15:45): "The level of participation is going to be whatever the bare minimum is if it's incentivized."

    Lincoln Murphy (17:33): "Whatever participation you do get, because it's earned, that participation is going to be so much more valuable."

    Johan Nilsson (19:01): "When you make the customer the hero, you get really someone really engaged; it's a win-win."

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    18 mins
  • Upselling for Success: Why Simple Retention is a Red Flag
    May 22 2024

    Impact Academy Expansion Program starts 27 May, 2024. Learn more and sign-up here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/the-expansion-program-may-eu

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    In this week’s episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln tackle the challenging question of how to start finding expansion opportunities when there appear to be none. They delve into the importance of the right mindset, strategies for uncovering hidden growth potential, and practical approaches for driving expansion in customer success.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    "At the moment I have zero expansion opportunities. Where and how do I start?"

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    1. The critical role of mindset in recognizing and creating expansion opportunities.
    2. Strategies for operationalizing expansion as an integral part of the customer's journey.
    3. The importance of pricing and planning in facilitating customer success and expansion.

    QUOTES:
    Lincoln Murphy (08:02): "We often see customers churn out... they just didn't know that, for this new goal they had, you were still the solution for it."

    Johan Nilsson (14:37): "It's a lot about having, if you have a real expansion model working... you can trust that process."

    Lincoln Murphy (19:59): "If you're tasked in Customer Success with expansion, and you don't have any input into pricing... That needs to change."

    Johan Nilsson (22:03): "It's crucial for expansion... You have to be at the table when you talk about pricing and plans."

    Lincoln Murphy (26:18): "We did that because we didn't trust the expansion process, or we just didn't have an expansion process in place."

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    36 mins
  • Customer Success Beyond what they Pay: Using Customer Characteristics to Tailor their Experience
    May 16 2024

    Our next Impact Academy training programs start on 27-May, 2024

    Customer-centric Automations:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/customer-centric-automations-eumay24

    The Expansion Program:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/the-expansion-program-may-eu

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    In this week's episode, Johan and Lincoln explore the significance of tailoring customer success strategies based on unique customer characteristics, moving beyond traditional price plan segmentation. They delve into the practical steps customer success teams can take to create more personalized, efficient service models that drive better outcomes for both customers and businesses.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    “How can we start tailoring our customer success to match our customers' characteristics instead of just their price plans? Got any practical advice on how to pull this off?”

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • Importance of recognizing and adapting to diverse customer characteristics in Customer Success
    • The pitfalls of traditional price plan segmentation and its impact on efficiency and service quality
    • Practical strategies for implementing tailored customer success approaches

    QUOTES:
    Lincoln Murphy (06:03): “If we just group customers based on what they pay, we are not just over delivering, we are misdelivering. You're giving them something they don't need, which actually adds no value to them.”

    Johan Nilsson (14:16): “As you scale and add more people to your team, how can you bring this tailored approach into every interaction? That’s where true operational efficiency and customer satisfaction kick in.”

    Lincoln Murphy (18:37): “We're not just talking about different treatment for high-paying customers; we're talking about appropriate, targeted engagement based on what each customer actually needs.”

    Johan Nilsson (19:33): “Using customer characteristics like tech savviness or industry specifics can transform how we deliver success. This is not about more touchpoints; it's about the right touchpoints.”

    Lincoln Murphy (22:17): “What we're striving for is consistency across experiences, so no matter which CSM a customer works with, the level of engagement feels tailored and personal.”

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    30 mins
  • Weaponized Incompetence: How Customers Get You to Do Their Work for Them (And How to Stop it)
    May 8 2024

    Check out our upcoming Customer Success courses at Impact Academy here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/collections

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    In this week’s episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln tackle a common yet under-discussed challenge in customer success: customers who, despite training, claim they "can't" perform tasks, thereby transferring their workload back to their CSMs. Discover insightful strategies for empowering customers and breaking this cycle of "weaponized incompetence".

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    "I have this customer, even though they've gone through training and I've shown them what to do, they just 'can't' do it and I end up doing it for them. How do I fix this?"

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • Recognizing and addressing 'weaponized incompetence' in customer behavior.
    • The importance of assertive communication and setting clear boundaries.
    • Strategic options to transition workload back to the customer, fostering independence.

    QUOTES:
    Johan Nilsson (00:07:12): "Sometimes when this happens, it could be that they're actually fearing to fail. So if they keep asking you, if they can't do it themselves, can't with quotations on there, you basically move it to the CSM to do the things."

    Lincoln Murphy (00:19:28): "If you're doing the work for them, you're taking on that responsibility, what's their responsibility anymore? There's nothing. And now they can just fully blame us, which goes back to what you were saying earlier about fear of failure."

    Johan Nilsson (00:21:44): "It's about giving them options to say, basically, I cannot do the work, but I can show you how to do it. So share your screen, I can walk you through it and then you're on your own."

    Lincoln Murphy (00:26:18): "We have let them behave badly and get in their own way. And so now we have to fix that. How do we do that? This is where we have to have open communication."

    Johan Nilsson (00:29:44): "It is a lot about positioning. You need to get the position right. So you're not just seen as a problem solver or the assistant here. We need to be seen as a strategic partner, and we need to get joint accountability working."

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    31 mins
  • Maintaining Morale and Retaining Talent in Uncertain Times
    May 3 2024

    Our Impact Academy Head of CS: How to Scale training starts May 6, 2024. Learn more and sign-up here:
    https://www.impactdemy.com/courses/head-of-customer-success-how-to-scale-may-eu

    ON TODAY'S EPISODE:
    In this week’s episode of Impact Weekly, Johan and Lincoln tackle a critical challenge facing leaders today: How do you maintain morale and retain your top performers amid significant organizational changes? From navigating economic shifts to adjusting to new market realities, they provide insightful strategies for keeping your team engaged and committed.

    THIS WEEK'S QUESTION:
    “How do you maintain morale and retain the A-players while managing major changes?”

    TOPICS BEING ADDRESSED:

    • Leadership strategies for maintaining morale during organizational changes
    • Understanding and addressing the impact of economic downturns and market shifts on team dynamics
    • Practical approaches for retaining top talent in uncertain times

    QUOTES:
    Johan Nilsson (08:00): “A players or top performers might be the first ones leaving when they see major changes because they are protecting themselves.”

    Lincoln Murphy (15:37): “You need to carve out unavoidable churn from your team’s responsibilities to protect morale.”

    Johan Nilsson (24:58): “Talk about next steps and career progressions frequently; it's crucial, especially when your company's going through major changes.”

    Lincoln Murphy (31:00): “Don't retreat to the spreadsheet. This is the time to shine as a leader and be really close to your people.”

    Johan Nilsson (16:45): “Actions create momentum and boost morale, focusing on short-term wins can rally your team.”

    Do you want more of this? Check out Impact Academy for interactive Customer Success training programs. https://www.impactdemy.com/

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    32 mins