As a model in Paris in the ‘90s, Sibyl Buck walked all the legendary runways and was photographed by the greats. But those things didn’t click into place until she took the risky move of being herself. Her agency wanted her to be pretty, but she wanted to be Sibyl: fire engine red hair (before everyone was doing that) and old flannel shirts and piercings. Turns out, the world wanted the real Sibyl, too. Now, facilitating Regenerative Integration at the New Paradome, her permaculture farm in Topanga, Sibyl is listening to own inner voice and fully loving her true, sovereign self. And at 52, this iconic beauty is still walking the runway for designers Vivienne Westwood and The Row to name a few. In this deep dive conversation, the woman who first introduced Carly to breathwork talks about sitting with suffering, ditching the inner critic, and cultivating devotion to all that comes into your life asking to be seen.

Beginning with conceptual themes and abstract ideas and moving from there to intuitively sourced imagery, Brooklyn-based artist David B. Smith constructs soft, colorful sculptures that both relate to and resist the glitchy white noise of the omnipresent world. David’s cozy but also dizzying installations often become environments for live sound in real time, and he and Carly share an affinity for inviting audiences to use their voices. In this dialog about art, performance, and personal exploration, what Carly and David are ultimately exploring is journey design: the process of creating pathways for themselves and others to explore freedom, safety, expansion, and the knowledge inherent in our bodies.