Jamie McMichael-Phillips is the Director of the Seabed 2030 Project, which aims to map all of the world's oceans, by 2030. For context, in 2024, we’re at 26.1%. This is conversation is about why, how we get to 100% and why it’s important in the first place.

Sponsor: SatCamp
SatCamp is a different kind of conference, from October 1st to October 3rd 2024, in Boulder Colorado

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(00:00) - Intro
(01:04) - Sponsor: SatCamp
(02:55) - Jamie Describes Himself
(03:53) - State of Ocean mapping in 2024
(06:19) - Difficulties with mapping the ocean
(08:22) - Why map the seabed?
(10:24) - What does mapping the seabed actually mean?
(15:01) - Comparing Land & Sea mapping
(18:55) - Seabed 2030 is a policy project
(20:42) - Incentives to map the oceans
(24:05) - If we've only mapped ~25%, what does the 75% other look like?
(27:49) - What are the coarse measurements for the ocean right now?
(29:31) - How we actually map the seabed
(33:14) - Patches of unmapped areas of the ocean
(35:38) - Getting there by 2030
(38:21) - How much has already been mapped?
(43:00) - Maps as Human Knowledge
(45:27) - Jamie's most anticipated, yet unmapped, area
(48:03) - Public Engagement
(53:01) - Book/podcast Recommendations
(55:04) - Support the podcast on Patreon

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