Andrew Peterson is the Co-Founder & CEO of Array Labs, with a simple mission: Mapping the whole world in 3D, at 20cm in near real time.

We peel the layers as to what it takes to get there: the engineering that’s required, how to build a constellation to do that, how you fund such a project.

Sponsor: OpenCage

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• My 20min video explaining radar satellite images
• Find USGS 1m LiDAR data across the US
• Y Combinator
• My episode with Ashlee Vance
• My episode with Brian McClendon
• Albedo
• Book & Podcast recommendation
  • Spin Selling by Neil Rackham (Affiliate Link)
  • Acquired

(00:00) - Intro

(01:08) - Sponsor: OpenCage

(02:34) - "Being a Recovering Engineer"

(03:15) - Mapping the world in 3D

(09:59) - "Near Real Time"

(15:46) - Applications will only use what's available, by definition

(18:15) - Why use radar for 3D images?

(22:23) - The coolest Space Shuttle mission, period

(27:19) - Tradeoff between resolution & coverage

(36:26) - Building cheap radar satellites

(39:46) - Array Labs's image resolution

(45:10) - A GPU Analogy

(50:34) - A story of image processing & computers

(56:07) - Array Labs today

(57:57) - Let's talk $$$

(01:06:38) - Low barrier to entry: Comparing XRay & MRI

(01:12:09) - Why stop at 10 satellites?

(01:15:50) - Focus

(01:19:53) - Max & Andrew's 1st chat during covid

(01:23:22) - Subscription model for satellite images?

(01:32:50) - Convincing the rest of the world your idea is worth something

(01:43:58) - Engineer to Founder

(01:47:30) - Book & Podcast recommendation

(01:51:06) - Array Labs's next 4 years?

(01:53:45) - Support the podcast on Patreon

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• Edited by Peter Xiong
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Jamie McMichael-Phillips is the Director of the Seabed 2030 Project, which aims to map all of the world's oceans, by 2030. For context, in 2024, we’re at 26.1%. This is conversation is about why, how we get to 100% and why it’s important in the first place.

Sponsor: SatCamp
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• Bio on Seabed 2030 website
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• Seabed 2030 Project (You can check out their interactive map here)
• GEBCO Grid
• 2024 Seabed 2030 Progress
• Point Nemo
• Book & Podcast Recommendations:
  • The Deepest Map by Laura Trethewey (Amazon Affiliate)
  • Seabed 2030 Podcast

(00:00) - Intro
(01:04) - Sponsor: SatCamp
(02:55) - Jamie Describes Himself
(03:53) - State of Ocean mapping in 2024
(06:19) - Difficulties with mapping the ocean
(08:22) - Why map the seabed?
(10:24) - What does mapping the seabed actually mean?
(15:01) - Comparing Land & Sea mapping
(18:55) - Seabed 2030 is a policy project
(20:42) - Incentives to map the oceans
(24:05) - If we've only mapped ~25%, what does the 75% other look like?
(27:49) - What are the coarse measurements for the ocean right now?
(29:31) - How we actually map the seabed
(33:14) - Patches of unmapped areas of the ocean
(35:38) - Getting there by 2030
(38:21) - How much has already been mapped?
(43:00) - Maps as Human Knowledge
(45:27) - Jamie's most anticipated, yet unmapped, area
(48:03) - Public Engagement
(53:01) - Book/podcast Recommendations
(55:04) - Support the podcast on Patreon

• Support the podcast on Patreon
• My video on an introduction to satellite images
• Website
• My Twitter
• Podcast Twitter
• Read Previous Issues of the Newsletter
• Edited by Peter Xiong
• Find more of his work

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