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Today's guest is Dr Dominique Hes - an author, educator, policy advisor and regenerative thinker. She certainly fits the bill of the change makers and paradigm busters I'm curious speaking with as part of my own quest to understand and contemplate and experiment with how to go about making the world a healthier, safer and more beautiful place.

There was a lot that I took from this chat with Dominique who for nearly three decades has pursued more than just sustainable futures but has been investigating and experimenting in ways by which to bring about real transitions and transformations. Her career, achievements and ongoing work are testament to the breadth of her curiosities and interests, but also her strengths and domains of knowledge. At the moment she is an Advisory Committee Member of the Federal Environment Minister's Circular Economy Ministerial Advisory Group, the Chair of the Board of Directors at Greenfleet and an adjunct fellow at Griffith University. She is deeply connected to and working with community driven regenerative projects across housing, agriculture and urban landscape renewal.

Dominique is a distinguished guest and someone who for two decades has been on the forefront of regenerative development - not regenerative in the sense of a framework or tool but a fundamentally different frame of understanding and being in relationship with self, each other and country - to be of service and generous in how you show up to support and cultivate vitality, vibrancy and longevity. This mindset and posture can seem untenable with what too often seems like a fixation on value extraction, resource optimisation and perpetual growth. Part of today's chat is about the limitations of finance as it is currently constructed, the inherent constraints that exist with what and how monetary systems value life and relationships and reality, but also how worrying too much about those limitations and constraints can become a blocker for progress.

Excellent things happen by doing excellent things. Keep showing up, maintain patience, be generous, bring people together, have fun, celebrate the successes, learn from the failures, take responsibility, combine curiosity with action, bit by bit. This chat was a pleasure, and I hope you take hope in the form of getting into action from it.

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