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Ellen DeGeneres is back, and according to the reaction, she’s either glossing over the impact of cancellation or she's playing the victim. We discuss.

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And, can you feel it? We’re living in a new era of eroticism and it’s aimed at… grown up women. We discuss the booming market for female sexual fantasy.

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